tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4138458.post1164551310739955818..comments2024-02-23T13:15:42.158+13:00Comments on Dissecting Leftism: JRhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00829082699850674281noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4138458.post-55328256273078778062015-08-23T17:23:36.338+12:002015-08-23T17:23:36.338+12:00@JR,
By your standards, which are theological, yo...@JR,<br /><br />By your standards, which are theological, you are absolutely correct. The thing is, that by the standards of the Pro-Choice side, THEY are absolutely correct. Mind you, their standards are also theological, since the vast majority of them know next to nothing about neurobiology, and so far as I can tell nobody knows much of anything about what makes one mass of neurons a person and another an antelope. If there is somebody entitled to express an actually scientific opinion on the subject, I suspect that person is keeping his yap shut, because he knows a donnybrook when he sees one.<br /><br />So what we have is a political fight between two competing theologies, and the side that makes the most mistakes is going to lose. Right now that's the Pro-Choice people, and has been for some time. For one thing they think their position is scientific, when it isn't. They think of themselves as Educated and Smart, and of the Pro-Life people as superstitious and stupid. With rare exceptions, their educations are so much bushwa, and they are far more superstitious than most educated Christians. But they have very carefully never read the works of any really smart Christian theologians; their philistine beliefs (the supremacy of 'Science', the goodness of The State) could't survive contact with actual critical thought.<br /><br />I believe that a fetus is not human. I believe that many supposed adults aren't, either. I know that my opinion is peculiar, and based on faith, not science. I don't really expect to convince anybody to share it. I think that abortion should be legal, that the emotional consequences of it should be better acknowledged than they are, and that if both of those conditions were met it would be as rare as the Pro-Choice side says they want it to be (BTW, they lie about that). <br /><br />I also believe that when it is made illegal in most places, the consequences will not be dire. So I watch the Pro-Choice side self-destruct with a certain wry detachment. C. S. P. Schofieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307088118631856756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4138458.post-47476687309283604502015-08-23T11:24:59.278+12:002015-08-23T11:24:59.278+12:00A fetus is as human as it ever will be. It is jus...A fetus is as human as it ever will be. It is just in its growth stage, most of which takes place after birthJRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00829082699850674281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4138458.post-37036708938322225332015-08-23T09:37:14.803+12:002015-08-23T09:37:14.803+12:00Actually, a more scholar translation of the comman...Actually, a more scholar translation of the commandment, based on the oldest recorded version we know of, says "Thou shalt not commit murder.". Murder is carefully defined in Hebrew law and custom. Making war, for example, does not qualify. Nor does the execution of certain classes of criminal. I have no idea where they were on the subject of the unborn.<br /><br />I only bring this up because the argument made was simplistic and would lead to the unproductive byway in which some pro-abortion twerp asks how Christians justify war if "Thou shalt not kill"<br /><br />I happen to be in favor of legal abortion, because I believe that a fetus is not human. I may be wrong, and I doubt it matters anyway. The arrogance and stupidity of my side of the argument strikes me as making it likely that abortion will be broadly illegal in my lifetime. And I'm not that upset. But I get tired of the twaddle from both sides. <br /><br />Most pro-abortion people believe, as I do, that a fetus is not human. It follows, therefore, that using fetal tissue for scientific research is no more ghoulish than using, say, the tissues of removed warts.<br /><br />Most pro-life people believe a fetus is human. It follows, therefore, that abortion is murder, and it is unnecessary to come up with elaborate conspiracies about "controlling women's bodies" to explain their behavior.<br /><br />Both sides tend, over time, to devolve into screaming imbeciles. At that point the Pro-Life side has a slight moral edge; If they are right their opponents are committing mass infanticide. If the pro-abortion people are right the pro-life people are trying to control women, but not kill them.<br /><br />Ultimately, I suspect, it will come down to some spectacular act of arrogance and stupidity by the Pro-Abortion people. Something like discovering another Kermit Gossnell and covering it up. Maybe a group of committed (and stupid) feminists will smuggle underage girls across a state border to evade a parental notification law, and then one of the girls will die and the whole thing will blow up like a propane refinery in a Godzilla movie. And public opinion will turn decidedly against 'Pro-Choice' and we will see a series of legal decisions made that, bowing to public opinion, effectively outlaw abortion. It will probably still be legal in a handful of places (Nevada vacation, anyone?), and if they are smart the Pro-Abortion forces will concentrate on funding bus and plane tickets for women they feel need help getting an abortion. Or they an expend a lot of money and political capitol trying to reverse public opinion before time. In which case, may they rot.C. S. P. Schofieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307088118631856756noreply@blogger.com